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HMG IDE - Suggestions
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:08 pm
by Pablo César
I wish to give my tips for IDE improvements. I do not know if this section is the right place (sorry in case it would be worng posted).
- Now with a new release 3.1.0 which would be very useful and necessary to have support for UTF-8.
- The title of IDE, in my opinion, should show version for example: HMG 3.1.0 and then name of project opened. This it is going to help to find right window when we have several projects open.
- "Build Log" windows should show all build.log file. Even when this was not enabled to compile due existing executable running. Not showing in blank.
- Option to select components by clicking with mouse and positioning more than one component. As example of this screen below:

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- Option to change color of multiple controls.
- Option to make copy of already components in the form, by selecting by mouse.
I hope my tips could contribute for improvements in our HMG-IDE. I know all of these takes a lot of time but I considere very important to have it.
Re: HMG IDE
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:20 pm
by mol
The problem is that Roberto didn't make public the code of IDE.
So any improvement is not possible.
Re: HMG IDE
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:09 pm
by esgici
mol wrote:...So any improvement is not possible.
This is correct.
HMG-IDE is a two parts software : Project Builder and Form Designer.
IMHO we could think on a new separate ( without Form Designer) Project Builder, regarding last enhancements ( such as "wiew log" ) and something to change, modify, correct in current HMG-IDE.
After wonderful ( and for me ultimate ) make utility HBMK, something in HMG-IDE become as "patch". A new Project Builder may be built on possibilities HMBK provided.
Only personal opinion.
Regards
Re: HMG IDE
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:25 am
by mol
But we need Form Designer for building big projects.
I can't imagine work with my app without form designer.
Marek
Re: HMG IDE
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:50 am
by esgici
mol wrote:But we need Form Designer for building big projects.
I can't imagine work with my app without form designer.
Marek
Sure.
Perhaps I couldn't tell enough my opinion
We should continue to using IDE as Form Designer (and waiting for UT8 support).
Only a new Project Builder I'm talking about.
Regards
Re: HMG IDE
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:53 am
by mol
Because of absence of Roberto, we could make new project builder. Only one problem is drawing and handling controls by mouse, I think.
Everything else we should be able to make in short time...
Marek
Re: HMG IDE
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:07 am
by esgici
mol wrote:Because of absence of Roberto, we could make new project builder. Only one problem is drawing and handling controls by mouse, I think.
Definitely, drawing and handling controls by mouse not required for Project Builder.
Look at xMate for example.
Everything else we should be able to make in short time...
Agreed.
We have already architect built by Roberto; View Log is ready to use; and all we have some wish list about Project Builder.
Moreover, since UT8 support added to HMG by our dear experts, realizing language support of Project Builder become easy, I think.
Regards
Re: HMG IDE
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:16 am
by mol
Maybe Roberto could free code of IDE?
Some years ago he was opposed to do this, but we can ask him again.
Rathi has contact with him, I think.
Re: HMG IDE
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:19 am
by esgici
mol wrote:Maybe Roberto could free code of IDE?
Some years ago he was opposed to do this, but we can ask him again.
Rathi has contact with him, I think.
IMHO working on existing code isn't a good idea ( I'm talking about Project Builder only ).
Sans doubt Maestro know and make the best. But he is absent and HMG is walking successfully on its way.
Sadly HMG-IDE isn't open source and we need an upgraded version; that's all.
Beginning with Project Builder may guide us to a Form Designer too, who know ?
Before all, Roberto is a teacher and success of his students will make him happy.
Yes he is absent, but the life is continue. HMG is growing, why IDE not ?
But I'm wondering, why our friends doesn't join this topic
Viva HMG

Re: HMG IDE
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:27 am
by mol
Maybe someone of us know how to start with form designer...
There are only few works to do - draw, drag and drop
Maybe Grigori Filatov could help us to start - hmg extended has IDE, too.